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		<title>Comment on Pray for a Terrorist by It's just a web site man!</title>
		<link>http://foreglow.org/2011/02/25/pray-for-a-terrorist/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[It's just a web site man!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your post.  Something we should all think about.

http://ginzotalk.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/219/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your post.  Something we should all think about.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saved by Her Enemy by Ron</title>
		<link>http://foreglow.org/2010/06/10/saved-by-her-enemy/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As you indicate, God has the ability to speak and have his will accomplished. He spoke creation into being, as I think we can both agree on. In Matthew 8:1-13 we find two stories where Jesus, God incarnate, also just spoke the word and it was done. God certainly has the ability to speak and have his will be done. On the other hand, knowing our sinful nature and loving his creation beyond all bounds, I believe that God went to extraordinary lengths to bring salvation to mankind. Though you do not accept this, I believe that God came to us in the form of Jesus to suffer, die and rise from the dead in order to purchase our salvation. These were extraordinary lengths that God went through to insure his reconciliation with man and his broken world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you indicate, God has the ability to speak and have his will accomplished. He spoke creation into being, as I think we can both agree on. In Matthew 8:1-13 we find two stories where Jesus, God incarnate, also just spoke the word and it was done. God certainly has the ability to speak and have his will be done. On the other hand, knowing our sinful nature and loving his creation beyond all bounds, I believe that God went to extraordinary lengths to bring salvation to mankind. Though you do not accept this, I believe that God came to us in the form of Jesus to suffer, die and rise from the dead in order to purchase our salvation. These were extraordinary lengths that God went through to insure his reconciliation with man and his broken world.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Rage Against God by Peter Hitchens by Ron</title>
		<link>http://foreglow.org/2010/06/10/the-rage-against-god-by-peter-hitchens/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will try to catch up on your posts and see what I think. There is a lot of information there to distill. You should know, however, that I am a follower of Jesus, come from Mennonite roots, and believe that Jesus is the only way to to salvation. On the other hand, I have spent a lot of time in Turkey and have a great deal of respect for my Muslim friends. In the meantime, I&#039;d be interested in hearing about your own personal journey; how you became a Muslim, and why. I don&#039;t believe that you covered that topic in your posts, though I may not have seen it yet. Feel free to sent your story by e-mail if you&#039;d like.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will try to catch up on your posts and see what I think. There is a lot of information there to distill. You should know, however, that I am a follower of Jesus, come from Mennonite roots, and believe that Jesus is the only way to to salvation. On the other hand, I have spent a lot of time in Turkey and have a great deal of respect for my Muslim friends. In the meantime, I&#8217;d be interested in hearing about your own personal journey; how you became a Muslim, and why. I don&#8217;t believe that you covered that topic in your posts, though I may not have seen it yet. Feel free to sent your story by e-mail if you&#8217;d like.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Rage Against God by Peter Hitchens by ummadam</title>
		<link>http://foreglow.org/2010/06/10/the-rage-against-god-by-peter-hitchens/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ummadam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could you please take a look at my recent blog posts (over a weeks worth toknow the whole story)? My family is suffering at the hands of a Mennonite Pastor and I would like to hear from bloggers, what they think of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you please take a look at my recent blog posts (over a weeks worth toknow the whole story)? My family is suffering at the hands of a Mennonite Pastor and I would like to hear from bloggers, what they think of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saved by Her Enemy by ummadam</title>
		<link>http://foreglow.org/2010/06/10/saved-by-her-enemy/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ummadam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[God doesn&#039;t have to go through lengths, all He has to say is &#039;BE&#039; and it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God doesn&#8217;t have to go through lengths, all He has to say is &#8216;BE&#8217; and it is.</p>
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		<title>Comment on National Gang Center by National Gang Center &#171; Foreglow</title>
		<link>http://foreglow.org/2009/10/08/national-gang-center/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[National Gang Center &#171; Foreglow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Mark Driscoll and Mar&#8217;s Hill Church by freedom4captives</title>
		<link>http://foreglow.org/2009/01/28/mark-driscoll-and-mars-hill-church/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[freedom4captives]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been researching Mars Hill Church and Driscoll for a little while now. You might want to visit my site:

Freedom4Captives.wordpress.com

Here is a portion from my About page:

Freedom for Captives is about liberating people from that which binds them.  Isa. 61:1 is my calling, my mission in life, namely: “to bring Good News to the afflicted, to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners.” My focus at this time is about exposing what I believe to be church and spiritual abuse occurring at Mars Hill Church, Seattle.

In this blog you will find postings which cover:

Mars Hill Church Abuse; Mark Driscoll; Spiritual Abuse; Church Abuse; Psychological Abuse; Former Members of Mars Hill; By-Laws; Controlling Personalities in the Church; Narcissistic Leaders &amp; Other Character Disordered Leaders; My Brief Experience of MHC &amp; Abusive Systems; “Christianized” Misogyny; “Wives Submit!”; “Obey Your Leaders!”; Membership Requirements; and more…

The following is an example from one of my posts which makes a good summary of what this site is about in exposing and challenging MHC and Driscoll’s abusive/controlling leadership style:

As a mental health counselor and a survivor of spiritual abuse, I perceive what appears to be many signs of cult like control and spiritual abuse at MHC:

.

Controlling Pastor with “Yes Men” Elders;

.

No Talk Rule;

.

No Dissent;

.

Emphasis on Submission and Obedience;

.

Shunning of “Unrepentant” Former Members;

.

Dis-fellowshipping “Questioners” and Critical Thinkers;

.

By-Laws Removing Accountability of Pastor/Elders;

.

Mind and Thought Control;

.

Membership Covenant and Financial Giving Pledge Required;

.

“Biblical” Counseling Only, if Referred Out, Must Sign Release Form (no confidentiality allowed);

.

Kangaroo Court Firing of Two Elders Who Dared to Question;

.

Extreme Gender Role Enforcement;

.

Members Must Attend Accountability/”Community” Groups

.

… Scary!

(Similar lists of abusive churches and leaders are found in VanVonderen’s, The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse, and Dr. Enroth’s Churches That Abuse)

Freedom]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been researching Mars Hill Church and Driscoll for a little while now. You might want to visit my site:</p>
<p>Freedom4Captives.wordpress.com</p>
<p>Here is a portion from my About page:</p>
<p>Freedom for Captives is about liberating people from that which binds them.  Isa. 61:1 is my calling, my mission in life, namely: “to bring Good News to the afflicted, to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners.” My focus at this time is about exposing what I believe to be church and spiritual abuse occurring at Mars Hill Church, Seattle.</p>
<p>In this blog you will find postings which cover:</p>
<p>Mars Hill Church Abuse; Mark Driscoll; Spiritual Abuse; Church Abuse; Psychological Abuse; Former Members of Mars Hill; By-Laws; Controlling Personalities in the Church; Narcissistic Leaders &amp; Other Character Disordered Leaders; My Brief Experience of MHC &amp; Abusive Systems; “Christianized” Misogyny; “Wives Submit!”; “Obey Your Leaders!”; Membership Requirements; and more…</p>
<p>The following is an example from one of my posts which makes a good summary of what this site is about in exposing and challenging MHC and Driscoll’s abusive/controlling leadership style:</p>
<p>As a mental health counselor and a survivor of spiritual abuse, I perceive what appears to be many signs of cult like control and spiritual abuse at MHC:</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Controlling Pastor with “Yes Men” Elders;</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>No Talk Rule;</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>No Dissent;</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Emphasis on Submission and Obedience;</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Shunning of “Unrepentant” Former Members;</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Dis-fellowshipping “Questioners” and Critical Thinkers;</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>By-Laws Removing Accountability of Pastor/Elders;</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Mind and Thought Control;</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Membership Covenant and Financial Giving Pledge Required;</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>“Biblical” Counseling Only, if Referred Out, Must Sign Release Form (no confidentiality allowed);</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Kangaroo Court Firing of Two Elders Who Dared to Question;</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Extreme Gender Role Enforcement;</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Members Must Attend Accountability/”Community” Groups</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>… Scary!</p>
<p>(Similar lists of abusive churches and leaders are found in VanVonderen’s, The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse, and Dr. Enroth’s Churches That Abuse)</p>
<p>Freedom</p>
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		<title>Comment on Living Waters Evangelism Site by Justin</title>
		<link>http://foreglow.org/2009/03/25/living-waters-evangelism-site/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, great ministry site.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, great ministry site.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Resurrection Argument that Changed a Generation of Scholars by patrick1979</title>
		<link>http://foreglow.org/2009/01/15/the-resurrection-argument-that-changed-a-generation-of-scholars/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[patrick1979]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 06:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Ron,

Yes you are certainly correct, and thank you so much for your blessing!  In addition note how Paul points out biblical authority by using, &quot;According to the scriptures&quot; several times.  

Basically stating that the ultimate source that testifies to this miraculous event is found within the authority of the scriptures.  *** I&#039;m half asleep and rambling, so forgive me... please.. I&#039;m not trying to preach in your blog. :(

In the beginning when God spoke, his Spirit went with his word.  Just like when we speak, our breath follows.  Interesting thing is that in the Bible the word Spirit is the same as Wind, or Breath.  The reason I bring this up is because of the wonderful scripture you brought up.

When we proclaim God&#039;s Word as it is, His breath/Spirit will naturally follow and empower what we say with conviction and truth.  God has shown the world many times that He is who He says He is, and how much more proof do you need than over 500 eye witnesses after Jesus&#039; resurrection?

It only takes 1 witness in a courtroom to convict someone.

I would say Romans 1 comes into play where men supress the truth in unrighteousness.

But as you and I know.. man can&#039;t hide in the fig leaves forever.

God bless Ron!

-Patrick]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ron,</p>
<p>Yes you are certainly correct, and thank you so much for your blessing!  In addition note how Paul points out biblical authority by using, &#8220;According to the scriptures&#8221; several times.  </p>
<p>Basically stating that the ultimate source that testifies to this miraculous event is found within the authority of the scriptures.  *** I&#8217;m half asleep and rambling, so forgive me&#8230; please.. I&#8217;m not trying to preach in your blog. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In the beginning when God spoke, his Spirit went with his word.  Just like when we speak, our breath follows.  Interesting thing is that in the Bible the word Spirit is the same as Wind, or Breath.  The reason I bring this up is because of the wonderful scripture you brought up.</p>
<p>When we proclaim God&#8217;s Word as it is, His breath/Spirit will naturally follow and empower what we say with conviction and truth.  God has shown the world many times that He is who He says He is, and how much more proof do you need than over 500 eye witnesses after Jesus&#8217; resurrection?</p>
<p>It only takes 1 witness in a courtroom to convict someone.</p>
<p>I would say Romans 1 comes into play where men supress the truth in unrighteousness.</p>
<p>But as you and I know.. man can&#8217;t hide in the fig leaves forever.</p>
<p>God bless Ron!</p>
<p>-Patrick</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Resurrection Argument that Changed a Generation of Scholars by Ron</title>
		<link>http://foreglow.org/2009/01/15/the-resurrection-argument-that-changed-a-generation-of-scholars/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 05:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Patrick-

Thanks for the post. As you have noted, and as Paul wrote in I Cor. 15) the resurrection is the central theme in our faith, the keystone that holds everything else in place. I thank God that he has made that fact clear to you in such an undeniable way. God bless you in every endeavor. Hope to hear from you again.

In His Grip,

Ron]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Patrick-</p>
<p>Thanks for the post. As you have noted, and as Paul wrote in I Cor. 15) the resurrection is the central theme in our faith, the keystone that holds everything else in place. I thank God that he has made that fact clear to you in such an undeniable way. God bless you in every endeavor. Hope to hear from you again.</p>
<p>In His Grip,</p>
<p>Ron</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Resurrection Argument that Changed a Generation of Scholars by patrick1979</title>
		<link>http://foreglow.org/2009/01/15/the-resurrection-argument-that-changed-a-generation-of-scholars/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[patrick1979]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To make a brief comment.  The Lord revealed Himself to me.  My personal relationship with Him goes beyond the boundaries of mere words, and leaves me with no way to ultimately describe Him.

If I were to pick just a few:  God is amazing, beautiful, powerful.

I believe in His resurrection because He first believed in me, and revealed Himself to me in a way that is undeniable.  Although we all should be well educated on the facts of history, and the prominent proof that surrounds biblical authority..  Let us never forget the relationship that is the source of life.

The person, Jesus Christ.

Thanks for the inspirational post!

-Patrick
http://imperishabledesign.com/devotions]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To make a brief comment.  The Lord revealed Himself to me.  My personal relationship with Him goes beyond the boundaries of mere words, and leaves me with no way to ultimately describe Him.</p>
<p>If I were to pick just a few:  God is amazing, beautiful, powerful.</p>
<p>I believe in His resurrection because He first believed in me, and revealed Himself to me in a way that is undeniable.  Although we all should be well educated on the facts of history, and the prominent proof that surrounds biblical authority..  Let us never forget the relationship that is the source of life.</p>
<p>The person, Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>Thanks for the inspirational post!</p>
<p>-Patrick<br />
<a href="http://imperishabledesign.com/devotions" rel="nofollow">http://imperishabledesign.com/devotions</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Obama and Clinton on Abortion and When Life Begins by Vicki</title>
		<link>http://foreglow.org/2008/04/15/obama-and-clinton-on-abortion-and-when-life-begins/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vicki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know what your stand is, but I read this yesterday and have a verse to quote:

Psalm 139:13, 16 &quot;For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother&#039;s womb.  Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.&quot;


 may God have mercy on these little babies..  

 and may He take vengeance on those who approve of these acts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what your stand is, but I read this yesterday and have a verse to quote:</p>
<p>Psalm 139:13, 16 &#8220;For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother&#8217;s womb.  Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.&#8221;</p>
<p> may God have mercy on these little babies..  </p>
<p> and may He take vengeance on those who approve of these acts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obama and Clinton on Abortion and When Life Begins by bshelley</title>
		<link>http://foreglow.org/2008/04/15/obama-and-clinton-on-abortion-and-when-life-begins/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bshelley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If only politicians could say what they mean and mean what they say. It is so sad to see such nuanced responses based on political calculation. They are both outspoken abortion advocates. Yet in the hopes, I suppose, of duping someone into not realizing that and voting for them any way is pretty near unforgivable intellectually and morally.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only politicians could say what they mean and mean what they say. It is so sad to see such nuanced responses based on political calculation. They are both outspoken abortion advocates. Yet in the hopes, I suppose, of duping someone into not realizing that and voting for them any way is pretty near unforgivable intellectually and morally.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Upcoming Serving Opportunity by jjgorny</title>
		<link>http://foreglow.org/2008/02/10/upcoming-serving-opportunities/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jjgorny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This will be a wonderful opportunity for our Table to serve together as well as friends and family the neighborhood!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This will be a wonderful opportunity for our Table to serve together as well as friends and family the neighborhood!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Choosing Life at the Movies by Ron</title>
		<link>http://foreglow.org/2008/01/26/choosing-life-at-the-movies/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for pointing that out Kathy. I believe its now fixed.
Ron]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for pointing that out Kathy. I believe its now fixed.<br />
Ron</p>
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		<title>Comment on Choosing Life at the Movies by womantowomancbe</title>
		<link>http://foreglow.org/2008/01/26/choosing-life-at-the-movies/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[womantowomancbe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 05:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The link doesn&#039;t work. :-)]]></description>
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